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Dec 7, 2021

Do you find yourself slogging through the days and weeks, buried in work? Are you frustrated at your current growth? Is your company culture simply some version of “Work hard. Bill hours. Make money?” Are you happy with that?

Our guest this week is a brilliant entrepreneur, David Heinemeier Hansson. David is the cofounder of Basecamp & HEY, creator of Ruby on Rails, author of “It Doesn’t Have To Be Crazy At Work”, race car driver, and the list goes on. But this conversation is really rooted in lessons from his book and his experience with Basecamp and work culture.

We tackle the mindset of modern firms that there just aren't enough hours in the week. You don't need more time. You don't need to work MORE. You need to work better and you need to have a mission. You need to understand why you're truly even doing this work, and at what point you're satisfied.

David walks us through his growth strategies and mindsets that led to his success, and lessons from many different companies. If growth is what you want, it doesn't need to happen all at once, or even at a constant rate.

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